DC’s Legends of Tomorrow has by no means been a present afraid of actually digging right into a epically silly joke, and making it come again round to completely sensible. And fortunately, we obtained one other one of these moments on this week’s episode, “Bay of Squids,” because of — and spoilers past this level — a battle for the nuclear soccer, within the oval workplace, held between JFK’s crew and an opposing basic.
That’s proper: Legends of Tomorrow performed a nuclear soccer recreation.
“I’m not going to lie,” Nick Zano, who performs Nate Heywood on the collection, instructed Decider. “Of all the stunts and all the fights we’ve done, that one actually felt like a bar fight.”
Written by co-showrunner Phil Klemmer and directed by Sudz Sutherland, “Bay of Squids” finds the Legends attempting to trace down a time-lost alien within the midst of the Cuban missile disaster. While half the crew is trapped in Cuba doing regular issues like getting Fidel Castro excessive on edibles, historical past buff Nate is paired up with Zari (Tala Ashe) on a mission to maintain tensions cool within the White House.
In between Nate geeking out about assembly his hero JFK, and the completely ludicrous brawl for possession of the “football,” there’s additionally the emotional hook: Nate was in love with a earlier, alternate universe model of Zari, and desires to determine methods to view Zari 2.0 as her personal human being.
To discover out extra about what went into the episode, the place Nate’s romantic future lies, and most significantly how he’s celebrating the fifteenth anniversary of Why Can’t I Be You?, the short-lived MTV actuality present Zano hosted again in 2006, learn on.
Decider: At this level, 4 seasons in, that is the longest run you’ve been on a TV present. So what’s it been like growing Nate over the course of 4 years now?
Nick Zano: I believe I’m at 5.
Five? Oh, wow.
Yeah. Man, I believe I’m going to 6. Going into six seasons in 2021, that’s some uncommon air these days. And for me, it’s been a journey from the primary day of Season 2, episode one, to now. I imply, I want you might have seen it by way of my eyes. It’s been an actual journey and issues have turned and twisted, and we’re now on this stunning little honeypot.
By Season 3 or so, the collection actually began digging into this superb, chaotic, self-reflexive power. What’s it been like to look at that, particularly, develop over subsequent seasons?
It began in touches. They put one thing in that’s a little bit candy spot early on, after which taking part in round, they’ll depart one thing in that was only a riff throughout Season 2. And it had response. I believe late in Season 2, we clicked one diploma, which is barely noticeable, however that one diploma over a stretch of time actually is a big distance. And that’s the place we at the moment are. We’re in deep uncharted waters of tv. Like that is worldwide waters. We can do regardless of the hell we would like out right here. That’s how we see it.
What does throwing aliens into the combination do that 12 months? How does that change issues up?
Oddly sufficient, it looks like a pure development. That’s a really bizarre factor to say. It simply looks like, yeah, of course, now we do that. But it actually doesn’t really feel that out of place, to be sincere. There’s some days when there’s a bunch of them round, that it feels very odd. But for probably the most half, them being our adversary, they’re going by way of a protracted line of different adversaries that had been weird and never essentially seen earlier than on TV.
Caity Lotz’s character is off on her personal, at the very least within the early half of this season. I understand it’s an ensemble, however she’s, comparatively talking, the lead of the present. She’s the anchor of the collection. So not having her there on set daily, how does it change the dynamic?
I believe it was such an enormous group, and we’re used to being paired off. Several of us will go do one factor and others will go do one thing else. And we’ve got an A storyline, a B storyline, and also you go off into your individual little world. So it’s on par for our ordinary stuff. Except for once we do work collectively, you’re like, “Holy cow, I haven’t seen you in three episodes.” And you’re like, “What have you been shooting?” And then you definitely simply catch up, and it’s surprising how briskly we simply return to regular once we’re all collectively.
It’s been attention-grabbing to look at Nate this season as a result of he’s just about buddy-less. Ray is gone, Behard is just about unconscious most of the time. So how has that modified the way you’ve approached the character, if in any respect?
Well, for me, this season, there’s no love curiosity, however all the opposite historical past with Nate is love, loss, love, loss, love, loss. And I believe from all that there’s a knowledge. When he sees his buddies going by way of an emotional disaster, he transitions into this emotional caretaker, and it’s like a, “Hey, we got this, we’re going to get through it, and we’re going to get through it together.” So from all of his experiences, he’s on heightened emotional alert for his friends.
This is an efficient transition to speaking in regards to the episode, as a result of clearly there’s some massive motion with what’s been happening with Nate and Zari 2.0. First of all, what was it like working with Tala Ashe on this episode, and being again in time throughout the Cuban missile disaster?
I believe it’s nice, as a result of we obtained to deal with the elephant within the room, which is the similarities of Zari 1.0 and a pair of.0, early within the episode. And then it goes straight right into a Nate’s candy spot of historical past. JFK, though it’s not latest, could be very related in our tradition. So it was thrilling and enjoyable to go to one thing that’s that sort of contemporary… The concept of: of course, JFK influenced Nate. Of course, the Cuban missile disaster influenced Nate. And that’s Phil Klemmer weaving his work in so effectively, like he does and giving Nate an episode with JFK.
Also, for those who look, I noticed a reduce of the episode, Tala chooses to do a Southern accent within the Oval Office, which she didn’t inform me, however she did throughout the first take. And I consider they used my sincere response to her doing a Southern voice within the episode.
When he offers that speech to her in the direction of the top of the episode, is he stating that he has emotions for Zari 2.0? Or is he saying, “I see you as who you are,” and there’s nothing romantic?
No, he sees her. He’s recognizing 2.0. This is the launch of a brand new relationship dynamic on the ship. And with a purpose to get this relationship, they needed to undergo the plain. They needed to deal with the elephant within the room, with a purpose to have some type of rapport. And I believe we did that. They a profitable mission collectively, they had fun, realizing they might depend on one another. At the very finish, when Nate is speaking to Zari, it’s him stating, “I see you. It’s you. You are my friend, and you are different than 1.0, but you are still my friend.”
Maybe that is extra on the directing facet of issues, however when you have got individuals leaping in like this, taking part in JFK, taking part in Robert Kennedy, on the performing facet, do you do something to verify they’re on the identical chaotic wavelength of the present?
Yeah, it’s the director, but additionally we’ve got a strict no assholes coverage, in order that’s our motto. No one’s allowed to be an asshole. And while you are available as a performer, and also you’re doing one thing as susceptible as impersonating and doing a take of JFK, that could be a very susceptible place to be in. We at all times let the performer know that, “Hey, we got you. We know what you’re doing. We know how hard it is. Let’s just have fun, and you go and do what you’re here to do, and shine doing it.” Because the higher they’re, the higher we’re. But we additionally perceive how tough it’s to enter a room of six of us who’ve been collectively, know one another’s rhythms and do one thing like a JFK, and the way onerous that’s. it’s a collective power, the place a visitor star may come on and be like, “Oh, I feel safe. And I’m going to go on a limb and do this performance.”
The nuclear soccer recreation is, I believe, my favourite gag of the season to date, simply because of how slowly it builds over the course of the episode.
I’m not going to lie. Of all of the stunts and all of the fights we’ve completed, that one really felt like a bar struggle. We went, and once they yelled, “Cut” everyone’s eyes had been on a heightened alert. And we’re all taking a look at one another, respiration heavy. And we’re like, “Is everybody okay?” It popped off. Making it was … Whew. Our stunt guys, our actors, it went onerous in a really tight area. And it was soccer power, that’s for rattling positive, with no pads or helmets.
Next week, you’ve obtained Caity Lotz directing an episode. David Ramsey, Jes Macallan, Maisie Richardson-Sellers, they’re all directing later within the season. Do you have got any ambitions to step into the director’s chair, or are you cheerful being half of the ensemble?
I’ve a two-year-old and a four-year-old. If I did this job, directed, acted and was mother and father to 2, examine on me, as a result of I believe I could also be attempting to hurt myself.
What then is it like having Caity Lotz behind the director’s chair once more, then?
Cozy. Katie is nice. Katie, Jes, Maisie, each time they wish to, they might pull that card from their pocket and do an exceptional job directing. It’s superb. They all can do it. Ramsey did one other nice job. His episode was a really, very … It was a Western, and it was an unlimited episode, and it could be one of our greatest episodes of the season. I instructed Ramsey when he got here on set, I used to be like, “Hey, Ramsey, this is SNL by comparison to Arrow.”
What else, if something, are you able to tease about Nate’s arc over the course of the season? Now that he’s over Zari, are we going to begin seeing him getting one other romantic relationship?
No romance, no, which is sweet, to be out of the romance for a season. You might get a go to from some individuals up to now this season, emotional visits from the previous. We’ve obtained one, the place there’s an alternate model of Nate from an alternate actuality, which was a ton of enjoyable to play.
Awesome. I do know I’m going to must allow you to go in a second, however earlier than I do, Monday, May twenty fourth is the fifteenth anniversary of, Why Can’t I Be You? How are you celebrating?
[Laughs] It’s superb. Yeah. I didn’t know. I’m most likely going to get some crew shirts made up for myself. That’s superb. It’s 15 years, you stated?
15 years. To be sincere, I’m not 100% positive if it’s May twenty fourth or the primary week of June, I discovered some conflicting info. But I do bear in mind watching that present and loving it again within the day. So I used to be very excited that I may tee up this query.
I used to be a producer on that present and the idea of it was so nice. Just considering someone had all of it collectively, after which simply dwelling that life and realizing we’re all type of human. No one’s life is best than your individual, and it’s simply what you make of it. I keep in mind that underlying message and all of the chaos, however that was the through-line. And that through-line I at all times liked. And I additionally liked the truth that Joel McHale on The Soup, liked our present.
This interview has been edited for size and readability.
DC’s Legends of Tomorrow airs Sundays at 8/7c on The CW.