‘Riverdale’ Season 5 Episode 11 Spoilers Interview With Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa

Riverdale is lastly again! The hit CW present returned tonight in, as normal, wild vogue, with maple mushroom journeys, Batman model stunts, and even a corpse in a trunk. At on the finish of all of it, Jughead Jones (Cole Sprouse) could also be in numerous hassle — much more than normal.

(*5*) Riverdale showrunner Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa instructed Decider. “And he’s still got ways to fall before he starts crawling back out.”

Spoilers for Riverdale Season 5, Episode 11 “Chapter Eighty-Seven: Strange Bedfellows” previous this level!

In the hour, Betty Cooper (Lili Reinhart) and Tabitha Tate (Erinn Westbrook) group as much as try to discover what occurred to Jughead after he tripped on maple mushrooms and left solely a bloody handcuff and a “gibberish” manuscript behind him. Unfortunately for them, Jughead’s ex-girlfriend Jessica (Phoebe Mui) additionally turns into fascinated by his whereabouts, and “helps” by getting the duo excessive on maple mushrooms themselves.

Meanwhile, Jughead is wandering round a homeless camp, and finally ends up saving the lifetime of a person he left for useless years earlier, resulting in a revelation: he wants to move to New York and un-repress his reminiscences from his time there. And he does that by hitching a trip with a trucker, one thing that we already know has led to the disappearance of a number of folks within the Riverdale space. Whoops.

Over on the opposite aspect of the present, Archie (KJ Apa), after deciding to take a break from his relationship with Veronica (Camila Mendes) till her divorce is finalized, groups up with Kevin (Casey Cott), Fangs (Drew Ray Tanner) and in the end Reggie (Charles Melton) with a view to accumulate the bounty on a bunch of escaped prisoners. That brings them instantly into battle with a rogues gallery of villains from the present’s previous, and a fateful dialog between Archie and Veronica.

And lastly, there’s Cheryl Blossom (Madelaine Petsch), who’s grappling together with her personal escaped convict: her mom, Penelope (Nathalie Boltt), who took the time in jail to start out a ministry primarily based on worshipping the spirit of her useless son, Jason Blossom (Trevor Stines). Though initially doubtful, by episode’s finish Cheryl has seen that spirit, revealed that she’s been conserving the burnt corpse of Jason in a trunk in her room, and is mainly co-priestess together with her Mom.

To discover out extra about this, in addition to a small tease for what’s coming down the highway in Season 6, learn on.

Decider: I do know you completed capturing these again 9 some time in the past, however given filming, COVID, the prolonged hiatus, a number of forged members having children, it’s been, I feel over a yr because you began engaged on season 5… What’s it wish to lastly have these episodes out on TV?

Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa: It’s so humorous as a result of I don’t suppose we’ve ever had as a lot of a break, and positively not a break midway by the season. The greatest factor is pleasure for the followers to observe these episodes, they’re among the greatest we’ve executed, they’re a few of our strangest episodes, and so they’re going to supply numerous solutions to numerous questions followers have had… I imply, they’re actually, actually particular. So I’m principally simply excited to get them out, and re-engage with the followers. It’s been manner too lengthy.

Jumping into Episode 11, followers are at all times, after all, very targeted on the ‘ships, however there looks like an actual effort on this hour to concentrate on the friendships, notably with Betty and Tabitha.

One of the largest items of 5×11 is that friendship between Betty and Tabitha. At the start of the season, we didn’t precisely anticipate that, however Erinn, who joined us this season and performs Tabitha, is such an exquisite actor, as is Lili. And we thought, nicely let’s carry them collectively and form of see what occurs. It simply labored, and works so fantastically. We didn’t need to inform a standard love triangle the place Betty and Tabitha have been type of cautious or jealous of one another.

We felt like them being collectively as pals and looking for this individual that they each care about could be actually, actually cool. And I’m actually pleased to say that we proceed that friendship into subsequent episodes. Then there may be just a few enjoyable of seeing Betty and Tabitha and Jughead’s New York pal, Jessica (Phoebe Miu), it’s type of just like the ghost of a girlfriend previous, current and future multi functional story. There’s enjoyable there, however I’m actually glad that greater than something that Betty and Tabitha are there for one another, and are there for Jughead, regardless of no matter has occurred or not occurred between them.

Tabitha has been serving to Jughead seek for the Mothmen, and on the finish of this episode she affords to assist Betty seek for the lacking women on the Lonely Highway. Is she only a useful, good individual or is there a extra private motivation there that we would discover out later?

Tabitha is an efficient individual… She’s extra guarded than a few of our different characters. She’s gradual to let folks into her life, however as soon as she does, she’s form of all in, and she or he feels accountable for Jughead. He stated look out for me, I’m going to take these maple mushrooms, and ensure I don’t do something loopy. And after all, Jughead being Jughead, Jughead does one thing loopy. So she does really feel accountable. But no, she’s obtained an actual integrity to her, and that’s been one of many guiding ideas about that character.

Let’s discuss Cheryl. In Season 4, she lastly moved past Jason with the entire Viking funeral scene, however now I consider she’s conserving his burnt corpse in a trunk and seeing visions of him perhaps as a parrot, I wasn’t 100% positive. What’s occurring right here?

[Laughs] Okay. Well, to be honest, that pc generated chicken is a crimson chicken, although it does look parrot-like, you’re proper. But that’s imagined to be a cardinal. It’s humorous, one of many issues we discuss lots about within the writers’ room is that we need to evolve the characters, and we would like the characters to vary over time, however that there are particular mounted touchstones of their persona. And Cheryl, nevertheless a lot she has moved past Season 1, she’s going to at all times be the lady whose beloved brother, whose soulmate, died when she was younger. And there’s at all times an absence there.

She does see that imaginative and prescient of Jason, however the story actually grows past that and turns into a narrative of Cheryl discovering one thing that fulfills her, and fills her, and comforts her in a manner that she hasn’t been comforted because the dying of Jason; and that’s this ministry that’s began as a sham by Penelope, that turns into one thing profound for Cheryl. I’ll additionally tease that it’s a massive story for Cheryl and it results in a really shocking redefinition of that character in a manner we haven’t seen earlier than.

At the top of the episode, Jughead will get in a truck and ostensibly heading to New York, however we all know vans on the freeway will be massive issues from this season. Should we assume that finally he’s going to get to New York and confront his suppressed reminiscences? Or is he in for a load of hassle on the Lonely Highway?

Can the reply one way or the other be each perhaps? [Laughs] Jughead’s massive thriller is him wrestling with and unpacking the repressed trauma, what occurred throughout these seven years. That’s his quest, this again half of the season, is to unravel the thriller of these seven years, clear up the thriller of what led to him leaving that horrific message for Betty, and dig out of the all-time low he’s in. We’ve seen Jughead on the brink of dying, however I don’t suppose we’ve seen him as all-time low earlier than as now we have on this episode. And he’s nonetheless obtained methods to fall earlier than he begins crawling again out.

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Moving to Archie and Veronica, Archie appears to be approaching his relationship together with her in a extremely mature, non hot-headed manner, which is barely atypical for Archie. Is this a part of his total rising up arc, over the course of the season and past?

Yeah, hopefully, proper? That simply speaks to Archie’s code of honor, he was within the military and he says, pay attention, as a lot as I need to be with you once more and have a relationship with you, you’re married, you’re nonetheless untangling no matter that’s, I feel we have to wait earlier than we dive again in, I feel that that’s the mature factor to do. And Veronica considerably grudgingly agrees. I beloved that scene within the diner in direction of the top of the episode the place Veronica and Archie are like, so are we actually not getting again collectively proper now? And it’s so clear, they each need to, however they know what they need to do. That will likely be a really fateful determination that they make. And it’ll have big fallout in subsequent episodes — actually, actually massive penalties.

I imply, numerous followers have speculated primarily based on footage that probably Reggie and Veronica could be sparking out one thing up once more. They definitely are working collectively on this episode. Should we probably anticipate that this fateful determination would possibly result in a resparking of Veronica and Reggie, or are we trying within the flawed path?

Episode 5×11 and 5×12, are a pleasant turning level for Reggie. We perceive why he’s been working with Hiram and what his life has been just like the previous seven years. It type of hints at an even bigger redemption. It hints to an even bigger function for Reggie… Charles is such an ideal actor, and often Reggie is sort of a comedic character, or like a bro antagonist, frenemy of Archie. But we do enter deeper waters with him.

And yeah, pay attention, Veronica has chemistry with numerous guys, what can I say? I imply, that’s how beautiful and charming Cami is as an actor. I might say nothing’s off the desk at this level.

This is much out, however given you’re already in pre-production on season six, how a lot of season 5, if any, will bleed into it; versus that being its personal story?

Yeah, good query. I’ll say that we’re undoubtedly choosing up on numerous the emotional relationship tales in season six. So numerous the friendships and relationships and redefinition of relationships that we get to on the finish of season 5, proceed into season six.

Riverdale airs Wednesdays at 8/7c.

This interview has been edited for readability and size.

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